We Should Talk About This on the internet

Same people as Pine Works, with the mics on.

We Should Talk About This on the Internet is a live show from the team at Pine Works about AI and how modern agencies, developers, and designers actually work: the tools we're betting on, the workflows that survived contact with real client work, and the ones that didn't.

It's unscripted, opinionated, and recorded in front of a live chat. Every episode lands here afterward with show notes, chapters, and every link we mentioned on air.

This site is part of the experiment: there's no CMS behind it. An AI agent watches the YouTube channel, drafts each episode page, and opens a pull request. We'll do an episode about that one day.

The hosts

  • Anthony Colangelo

    Software Partner

    Builds the things, and increasingly builds the things that build the things. Has strong opinions about which grunt work belongs to the machines.

  • Yesenia Perez-Cruz

    Design Partner

    Designs in the real material: live, code-based prototypes over static mockups, so clients feel the product instead of imagining it.

  • Joe Rinaldi

    Strategy Partner

    Community builder with twenty years of client services behind him. Now spends his mornings arguing with Bruce about who to call next.

  • Ryan Irelan

    Software Partner

    Keeps the show and the agency on the air. Currently letting an AI agent run this very website, on purpose.